TRIETON, Monomi -- Saying a "voice of reason" was desperately needed in the ongoing and increasingly hostile immigration debate, Monomi Senator Brooke Burnstein spoke out on the hot-button issue in a radio interview over the weekend.
Speaking to Grassadellian Public Radio (GPR), Burnstein said a compromise on immigration is attainable.
"There are a lot of voices drowning out the debate on this topic, but I'm here to tell you, it's possible to be compassionate and uphold the rules," said the freshman Conservative senator.
Burnstein addressed the recent controversy in his home state, in which liberals like Trieton Mayor Felipe De Orondes and Monomi Attorney General John Liu are pushing for looser immigration laws and regulations.
Meanwhile, Monomi's Conservative Governor, Will Huxton, is doing the opposite, vowing to pass stricter regulations.
Burnstein, who was elected to the Senate in 2018 but previously served in the National Assembly for more than a decade.
"The media, the national media, not just those in Monomi...the national media have made this issue much more controversial than it ever was or than it ever should be," said Burnstein.
"If we stop arguing and cut the emotional manipulation of the matter out of the equation, if we just look at the facts and at common sense, it's very clear that we can treat people with compassion and kindness but also still have an orderly system that works."
The senator pointed to refugees coming to Grassadellia from war-torn and impoverished countries.
"People that are really desperate...our hearts go out to them. My heart goes out to them. That must be a very terrible position to be in, to be desperate for your family, for your safety and economic livelihood. I get that," he said.
"But at the same time, we have to have rules. We can't have a chaotic system with no rules, or with rules that aren't enforced. We need rules for our national security, we need rules for the logistics of the system, to make sure we have efficiency, and we need rules because we have a lot of people who have followed the system and done the process the way they were supposed to, and they shouldn't be punished for that, they should be rewarded for following the rules."
Asked for specifics, Burnstein said those who are detained at the border for coming illegally or without documentation should be treated with dignity, given adequate housing and food and medical care.
"What we want to avoid is what we've seen in Hungary or now in the United States, where refugees are treated with disdain, and they're put in fenced-off cages, not given adequate food or medical. We don't want that. We need quality housing, good, healthy food and enough to go around, and doctors on sight and social workers. We need to have all the provisions necessary for processing these people and doing a good job."
As for those already in the country illegally?
"I believe they should be offered a path to citizenship if they haven't committed any crimes, or broken any major laws. If they've paid their taxes, if they have a job, if they're contributing to our country and to our community, then yes, I believe they should be allowed to stay. Whether they pay a fine or have some other form of civil penalty, that's up for debate. But we need to make a path forward for these people because there are a lot of them and it's not feasible or humane to round them up and deport them."
Burnstein was emphatic, however, that he supports deporting violent and serious criminals.
"Absolutely. No question. If you are a violent criminal, if you're in a gang, if you commit a serious offense, even if it's not violent, if it's white collar crime. If it's serious, then yes, those people should be deported and prevented from coming back."
The senator's interview with host Bob Engalls was widely publicized across social media and on traditional media outlets.
Already, his pro-compromise stance has attracted stinging criticism from members of the far-right.
"If you rob a bank, the judge doesn't say, 'Well this person was desperate for money, they were really in tough financial straits, so no problem, it's okay, you don't have to go to prison,'" Biereland Senator Brad Bearns (C) said on GNN Monday night, in a mocking criticism of Burnstein's proposals.
"We have laws for a reason. And we expect people to follow them. If you can't follow them, then you don't deserve to be here," Bearns added.
Burnstein's comments received praise from some Nationalists, with Roddenshire Senator Jill Airn (N) calling it "an interesting proposal."
But other Nationalists saw the Monomi senator's ideas as incomplete.
"He said a few good things but he shouldn't have stopped where he did," said Damoign Senator Jean Chaveau. "His plan doesn't go far enough to protect people who came here through no fault of their own. His plan is still punitive and it doesn't do enough to ensure that people are treated fairly and with dignity."
Among his home-state colleagues, Burnstein's comments were greeted by a mixed reception.
Senator Cathy De Beers, a typically party-line Conservative, said Burnstein's ideas were "a good start," while Senator Rill Stevens, a more moderate Conservative, said he "likes the direction Brooke is going" with his proposals.
Monomi's fourth senator, Kerry Paul, made a neutral statement.
"This is a complex issue that needs to be evaluated further and I appreciate my colleague Senator Burnstein's contributions to this discussion."
Speaking to Grassadellian Public Radio (GPR), Burnstein said a compromise on immigration is attainable.
"There are a lot of voices drowning out the debate on this topic, but I'm here to tell you, it's possible to be compassionate and uphold the rules," said the freshman Conservative senator.
Burnstein addressed the recent controversy in his home state, in which liberals like Trieton Mayor Felipe De Orondes and Monomi Attorney General John Liu are pushing for looser immigration laws and regulations.
Meanwhile, Monomi's Conservative Governor, Will Huxton, is doing the opposite, vowing to pass stricter regulations.
Burnstein, who was elected to the Senate in 2018 but previously served in the National Assembly for more than a decade.
A notable moderate Conservative senator, he is known to work with Nationalists to achieve compromise legislation.
While generally popular among Monomians, the centrist lawmaker has struggled to win over the far-right party base of the CNS.
However, he defeated right-wing Assemblyman Pete Doonan in the 2018 primary election, and went on to defeat sitting senator Brad Fiodora in the general election.
Immigration was a major issue in his 2018 Senate race, and Burnstein blames national media most for the impasse on immigration reform.
"The media, the national media, not just those in Monomi...the national media have made this issue much more controversial than it ever was or than it ever should be," said Burnstein.
"If we stop arguing and cut the emotional manipulation of the matter out of the equation, if we just look at the facts and at common sense, it's very clear that we can treat people with compassion and kindness but also still have an orderly system that works."
The senator pointed to refugees coming to Grassadellia from war-torn and impoverished countries.
"People that are really desperate...our hearts go out to them. My heart goes out to them. That must be a very terrible position to be in, to be desperate for your family, for your safety and economic livelihood. I get that," he said.
"But at the same time, we have to have rules. We can't have a chaotic system with no rules, or with rules that aren't enforced. We need rules for our national security, we need rules for the logistics of the system, to make sure we have efficiency, and we need rules because we have a lot of people who have followed the system and done the process the way they were supposed to, and they shouldn't be punished for that, they should be rewarded for following the rules."
Asked for specifics, Burnstein said those who are detained at the border for coming illegally or without documentation should be treated with dignity, given adequate housing and food and medical care.
"What we want to avoid is what we've seen in Hungary or now in the United States, where refugees are treated with disdain, and they're put in fenced-off cages, not given adequate food or medical. We don't want that. We need quality housing, good, healthy food and enough to go around, and doctors on sight and social workers. We need to have all the provisions necessary for processing these people and doing a good job."
As for those already in the country illegally?
"I believe they should be offered a path to citizenship if they haven't committed any crimes, or broken any major laws. If they've paid their taxes, if they have a job, if they're contributing to our country and to our community, then yes, I believe they should be allowed to stay. Whether they pay a fine or have some other form of civil penalty, that's up for debate. But we need to make a path forward for these people because there are a lot of them and it's not feasible or humane to round them up and deport them."
Burnstein was emphatic, however, that he supports deporting violent and serious criminals.
"Absolutely. No question. If you are a violent criminal, if you're in a gang, if you commit a serious offense, even if it's not violent, if it's white collar crime. If it's serious, then yes, those people should be deported and prevented from coming back."
The senator's interview with host Bob Engalls was widely publicized across social media and on traditional media outlets.
Already, his pro-compromise stance has attracted stinging criticism from members of the far-right.
"If you rob a bank, the judge doesn't say, 'Well this person was desperate for money, they were really in tough financial straits, so no problem, it's okay, you don't have to go to prison,'" Biereland Senator Brad Bearns (C) said on GNN Monday night, in a mocking criticism of Burnstein's proposals.
"We have laws for a reason. And we expect people to follow them. If you can't follow them, then you don't deserve to be here," Bearns added.
Burnstein's comments received praise from some Nationalists, with Roddenshire Senator Jill Airn (N) calling it "an interesting proposal."
But other Nationalists saw the Monomi senator's ideas as incomplete.
"He said a few good things but he shouldn't have stopped where he did," said Damoign Senator Jean Chaveau. "His plan doesn't go far enough to protect people who came here through no fault of their own. His plan is still punitive and it doesn't do enough to ensure that people are treated fairly and with dignity."
Among his home-state colleagues, Burnstein's comments were greeted by a mixed reception.
Senator Cathy De Beers, a typically party-line Conservative, said Burnstein's ideas were "a good start," while Senator Rill Stevens, a more moderate Conservative, said he "likes the direction Brooke is going" with his proposals.
Monomi's fourth senator, Kerry Paul, made a neutral statement.
"This is a complex issue that needs to be evaluated further and I appreciate my colleague Senator Burnstein's contributions to this discussion."